Sober Not Mature

Episodes

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Dec. 16, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 95 (Crazy Musings From Mexico)

This week it's just us and Mike and his girlfriend are in Mexico! We started off with Mike's reading and it talked about how we all do this sober thing the same way, but also just a little bit differently. The same path, with slight (and unique) variances. Then some nice comments from a listener and a follower. A short story about another podcast and proof that we don't always think before we speak. Crazy Megan sent us some questions a few weeks ago and we finally had the chance to a...
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Dec. 9, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 94 (Mara S - Lotion For Sodriety)

This week we have Mara! @marajsankin Another really, really good friend from Cleveland. We had a lot of fun with this conversation, but recovery is serious business with Mara. This is not her first run at this and she told us what happened and how she came back to sobriety. She also taught us a new word... "sodriety." (listen and you'll hear what it means.) The most important part of the conversation was about what she is doing now and what her life is like today. It's good stuff ...
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Dec. 2, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 93 (Nico M - No Halos, But A Couple Of Horns)

This week we have Nico Morales @nohalonm Nico joins us from New Mexico and took the time to walk us through all of the things that brought him down. He started using at 14 and gave up family and everything else that meant something to him. Then he found a solution. He doesn't follow the same path as we do, but we are all headed in the same direction and we talked about the similarities, rather than the differences. Today, he is an entrepreneur, a coach, a speaker and as he put it, he...
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Nov. 25, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 92 (Blowing Your Ass Out And Other Questionable Behaviors)

It's the Gratitude Episode, with your friends, Mike and Bill! Mike did his reading and yep, it was about gratitude. The importance of saying thank you, being kind and being better than we used to be. Then we did a recap of the sober retreat that we went to last weekend. It was fun, engaging and we highly recommend attending a retreat. It was wonderful. We did have a slight "run in" with a dude that was NOT part of our group and it's a fun story. Bill finished the Matthew Perry audio boo...
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Nov. 17, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 91 (Record Setting Dribblers)

Yep, this week it's Mike and Bill and an early release, since we have a busy weekend ahead of us. Mike did his reading and it was about how "we" see alcohol and drugs, how "we" become fools when we drink, what we lose when we drink and ultimately what we gain when we stick around. Then we chatted for a few minutes about chaos. The life of chaos that we used to live and the peace and quiet that we get to enjoy now. The Holidays are coming up, so Mike did his normal message about how to g...
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Nov. 11, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 90 (Michael R - The Keating Boys & The Mystery Of The Casino Buffet)

This week we have Michael! Our really, really good friend from Cleveland and one of our sober friends for over 13 years. Michael told us a little bit about how he got here, but more importantly, why he stays here. We talked about The Keating Center and the 3/4 house that we were all at. Then about the woman that he met, who became his wife and the mother of his 2 beautiful daughters. There were poker nights, charity events, good times and rough times and even a trip to the all you can e...
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Nov. 4, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 89 (Memories, Meditation and Mammaries)

It's your friends, Mike and Bill this week! And we had some things to talk about. Mike did his reading and it was about monsters and miracles. Pretty much a then and now when it comes to folks like us, and we had a nice conversation about it. Then on to Step 11 (Since it's the 11th month) and it deals with prayer and meditation. We both work this step every day, but maybe differently than some? It's important though, and we talked about it. We talked about our mom and shared some nice m...
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Oct. 28, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 88 (Metal God Nostalgia & Piles Of Manure)

Yay! Just Mike and Bill this week. Eh, it is what it is, right? Mike did his reading and it was about responsibility. Certainly something that most of us lacked before we got sober, so it was a good conversation. Then we inadvertently got into a conversation about sponsors and sponsees. The main thing is that "we" can't keep anyone sober, but we can offer guidance and experience. We chatted about meetings and how we picked them early on, a podcast episode with "the metal god," nostalgia and w...
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Oct. 21, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 87 (Heidi M - Strawberries, Serenity & Other Delights)

This week we have Heidi! @moonwater_motherearth Our good friend and "bestie" from Cleveland. She walked us through a little bit about what got her here (which was actually a guy), and then the goof stuff. What her life is like today. From not knowing how she would do anything without a substance, to a life that is full beyond her wildest dreams. And yes, she said the line... "It's not all strawberries and orgasms..." but she explains why she wouldn't trade this new life for anything. Enjoy t...
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Oct. 13, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 86 (Birthday Cakes and Blood Splatters)

Yeah... it's Mike and Bill again this week. We recorded on Thursday this week and it's Bill's son's birthday! Mike did his reading and it was about instincts, impulses and the dreaded idea of growing up. We have "not mature" in the name of our podcast, but even we have grown up. A little bit. It did make for a good conversation though. Then we talked briefly about "that person" that wants to rid the world of the word alcoholic. We didn't beat that up too much, but we still have strong opinions...
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Oct. 7, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 85 (Emissions From Hot Burning Balls Of Gas)

Well, it's just the two of us again and we actually had quite a bit to talk about. Mike did his reading and it was about choices. They are lost while we are drinking, but when we get sober, we have a "sense' of choice again. It was a good reading and a good discussion. It's October, the tenth month, so we dove into the 10th Step. Personally, we both feel like this step is a big one and we talked about when we started practicing it, how it has helped us and maybe even makes us better people. W...
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Sept. 30, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 84 (Finding Worth In Our Worthiness Is Super Cool)

Yep, just Mike and Bill this week and we were a little punchy, but in a fun way... Mike did his reading, and as always it was a good one, that turned into a great conversation. Faith, openness, higher powers and light switches. (it will make sense when you listen) We talked about the trip that Bill took, some old feelings and a story from a meeting that he went to in the bible belt. Lot's of God, but a good meeting nonetheless. There was music talk, action items from our readings and when we ...
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Sept. 23, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 83 (Carly and Breeze - Don't Mind Our Mess. Your Message Is Our Message)

This week we have Carly and Breeze! @carlyannmariereed @_breezexx We had a great conversation with them and it was amazing how much we all have in common. They are young and we are old, but we all ended up in the same place. Kind of cool. They gave us some background and then they told us about this wonderful thing that they are doing called, Trust Your Message @trustyourmess_age Carly and Breeze aim to inspire sobriety, encourage recovery, and offer valuable resources and personal insights to...
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Sept. 16, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 82 (Katie S - A Young Caregiver Shares "Our" Time And Doesn't Get Our References)

This week we have Katie! She is Bill's son's girlfriend, a young person, a normie and she is a Mental Health Technician. We had a great conversation with her and she walked us through what she does, how she got there and what she enjoys about it. She works with individuals who are struggling with mental health and she often works with people who are starting their recovery journey. We also talked about medical treatment with addiction recovery and what it means to us to be sober. We have our o...
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Sept. 9, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 81 (Gary B - A Listener Walks Into A Podcast And Makes Himself At Home)

This week we have Gary! He has listened to us for a while and approached us a couple of months ago. It took a little bit to fit him into the schedule, but we are glad that we did. He walked us through his childhood, the trauma that he dealt with and how he drank. Drinking took away the negatives and as with many of us, he never had just one. Then he walked us through the steps, in story form, and we enjoyed every minute of it. The rest of the episode was just a few sober guys, hanging out and ...
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Sept. 2, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 80 (An Audio Epidural For Your Labor Day)

Just Mike and I this week, but we did have a lot to talk about. We had a whole sheet full of notes, but really only talked about a few things. Mike's reading had to do with the concept of "progress not perfection," and we know about that all too well. Then we jumped into Step 9, because it actually is September already! That was a great conversation and one that I think everyone can relate to, even if you don't follow a 12 Step program. We have been doing this podcast for 18 months now and we...
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Aug. 26, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 79 (Mike From Sober Press - Wise Guys Cracking Wise)

Holy cow, it's Season 4! And to start it off, we have Mike from Sober Press. @soberpress First of all, with 2 "Mike's," I tried to set up a nickname for the resident Mike, but I couldn't seem to keep that straight. I tried though... Mike from Sober Press has become what we consider an Instagram friend and we have had plenty of conversations and interactions with him on the socials but this was our first chance to talk to him. He was a bit under the weather, but was able to give us the "Cliffs...
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Aug. 19, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 78 (Curious Musings From The Middle Of The Night))

This week it's Mike and I and we are recording late! Listen and find out why, but it did make us a little punchy, but in a fun way. Mike had a great reading this week and then we jumped into Step 8 for a little bit. It turned into a good conversation and one that may be helpful to some people. A very good friend of ours passed away recently, but he died sober. He "graduated." We told some stories and recalled some fun times with him and expressed a lot of gratitude for who he was to us. He wa...
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Aug. 12, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 77 ("G" Revisited - Pain, Resentment and Other Nonsense Filler Words)

This week it's our good friend Gretchen (G). We had her on before (Episode 31) and she's back to talk about her knee surgery and how she dealt with the procedure, the pain, the meds and the overall recovery. And she did it all sober. Then we talked about the pains we all have. Getting old has its challenges. Mike did his reading and it had to do with acceptance. Coincidentally, G has been having some struggles with acceptance and we had a nice discussion about that. It was a fun conversation ...
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Aug. 5, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 76 (Alysse B - Curates Us Soberly... But Not Maturely)

This week we have Alysse, founder of The Sober Curator. @thesobercurator You may have read some of our posts as far as how we became acquainted and if not, we do talk about it briefly. Alysse is truly one of us and she has 17 years sober. She has had her ups and downs, successes and failures and she does a great job of walking us through her story. We heard a lot of things that we have heard before, such as trying to control her drinking, meetings were not for her (in the beginning), feeling ...
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July 29, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 75 (King Roach - Grateful To Be In The Room)

This week we have Alex "King Roach" Montañez @ImKingRoach Alex approached us a few months ago to be on and after a few adjustments and date changes, we were able to have a great conversation with him. He gave us a brief background about what happened and why he got sober, and then we got right into the fun stuff... what he is up to now. He started his company www.dominatetheglobe.com in 2020, had some ups and downs and then got sober on 3/01/22. Drinking had become a daily thing for him and it...
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July 22, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 74 (Planting Flowers In The Turds)

Yep, it's Mike and Bill again. Fresh off a weekend of bikers, Jetts, Foos and a bad "hotel" experience. But, it was a great weekend. We started off with Mike's weekly reading and it was a good one. All about service and we got into a conversation about what we do for service. Is it enough? Will it ever be enough? Listen and find out. Then we recapped the weekend and we have some stories, but the bottom line is that we had a great time, listened to some great rock 'n' roll and we did it all sob...
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July 15, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 73 (Fighting Relapse, Darkness and Foo)

Just us two knuckleheads this week, both in Indiana and we are going to the 120th Harley Reunion in Milwaukee! Bikers, Joan Jett and the Foo Fighters! First of all, the reading from Mike and it was about not regretting the past, facing people that we hurt and we had a pretty nice conversation. That led into another reading that we came across this week about facing walls in our lives. Mike has his radio gig coming up again! We talked about that briefly, but stay tuned for all of the details. ...
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July 8, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 72 (Dr. Sarah Co-signs Our Bullshit and Takes Us Out of CrazyTown)

This week we talked with Dr. Sarah Michaud (Author "Co - Crazy") Website ⁠www.DrSarahmichaud.com⁠ YouTube - Leaving CrazyTown "Co - Crazy begins with a chronicle of growing up in a family with alcoholism that eventually led to a harrowing journey and downward spiral into drug and alcohol addiction. Her inspiring recovery is deeply authentic, and Michaud’s vivid descriptions are both heartbreaking and illuminating." We talked about her book, about her YouTube channel and about her 40 years of s...