Sober Not Mature

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SoberNotMature - Episode 86 (Birthday Cakes and Blood Splatters)
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Oct. 13, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 86 (Birthday Cakes and Blood Splatters)

Yeah... it's Mike and Bill again this week. We recorded on Thursday this week and it's Bill's son's birthday! Mike did his reading and it was about instincts, impulses and the dreaded idea of growing up. We have "not mature" in the name of our podcast, but even we have grown up. A little bit. It did make for a good conversation though. Then we talked briefly about "that person" that wants to rid the world of the word alcoholic. We didn't beat that up too much, but we still have strong opinions a...
SoberNotMature - Episode 85 (Emissions From Hot Burning Balls Of Gas)
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Oct. 7, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 85 (Emissions From Hot Burning Balls Of Gas)

Well, it's just the two of us again and we actually had quite a bit to talk about. Mike did his reading and it was about choices. They are lost while we are drinking, but when we get sober, we have a "sense' of choice again. It was a good reading and a good discussion. It's October, the tenth month, so we dove into the 10th Step. Personally, we both feel like this step is a big one and we talked about when we started practicing it, how it has helped us and maybe even makes us better people. We d...
SoberNotMature - Episode 84 (Finding Worth In Our Worthiness Is Super Cool)
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Sept. 30, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 84 (Finding Worth In Our Worthiness Is Super Cool)

Yep, just Mike and Bill this week and we were a little punchy, but in a fun way... Mike did his reading, and as always it was a good one, that turned into a great conversation. Faith, openness, higher powers and light switches. (it will make sense when you listen) We talked about the trip that Bill took, some old feelings and a story from a meeting that he went to in the bible belt. Lot's of God, but a good meeting nonetheless. There was music talk, action items from our readings and when we sta...
SoberNotMature - Episode 83 (Carly and Breeze - Don't Mind Our Mess. Your Message Is Our Message)
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Sept. 23, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 83 (Carly and Breeze - Don't Mind Our Mess. Your Message Is Our Message)

This week we have Carly and Breeze! @carlyannmariereed @_breezexx We had a great conversation with them and it was amazing how much we all have in common. They are young and we are old, but we all ended up in the same place. Kind of cool. They gave us some background and then they told us about this wonderful thing that they are doing called, Trust Your Message @trustyourmess_age Carly and Breeze aim to inspire sobriety, encourage recovery, and offer valuable resources and personal insights to h...
SoberNotMature - Episode 82 (Katie S - A Young Caregiver Shares "Our" Time And Doesn't Get Our References)
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Sept. 16, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 82 (Katie S - A Young Caregiver Shares "Our" Time And Doesn't Get Our References)

This week we have Katie! She is Bill's son's girlfriend, a young person, a normie and she is a Mental Health Technician. We had a great conversation with her and she walked us through what she does, how she got there and what she enjoys about it. She works with individuals who are struggling with mental health and she often works with people who are starting their recovery journey. We also talked about medical treatment with addiction recovery and what it means to us to be sober. We have our opi...
SoberNotMature - Episode 81 (Gary B - A Listener Walks Into A Podcast And Makes Himself At Home)
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Sept. 9, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 81 (Gary B - A Listener Walks Into A Podcast And Makes Himself At Home)

This week we have Gary! He has listened to us for a while and approached us a couple of months ago. It took a little bit to fit him into the schedule, but we are glad that we did. He walked us through his childhood, the trauma that he dealt with and how he drank. Drinking took away the negatives and as with many of us, he never had just one. Then he walked us through the steps, in story form, and we enjoyed every minute of it. The rest of the episode was just a few sober guys, hanging out and ta...
SoberNotMature - Episode 80 (An Audio Epidural For Your Labor Day)
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Sept. 2, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 80 (An Audio Epidural For Your Labor Day)

Just Mike and I this week, but we did have a lot to talk about. We had a whole sheet full of notes, but really only talked about a few things. Mike's reading had to do with the concept of "progress not perfection," and we know about that all too well. Then we jumped into Step 9, because it actually is September already! That was a great conversation and one that I think everyone can relate to, even if you don't follow a 12 Step program. We have been doing this podcast for 18 months now and we ta...
SoberNotMature - Episode 79 (Mike From Sober Press - Wise Guys Cracking Wise)
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Aug. 26, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 79 (Mike From Sober Press - Wise Guys Cracking Wise)

Holy cow, it's Season 4! And to start it off, we have Mike from Sober Press. @soberpress First of all, with 2 "Mike's," I tried to set up a nickname for the resident Mike, but I couldn't seem to keep that straight. I tried though... Mike from Sober Press has become what we consider an Instagram friend and we have had plenty of conversations and interactions with him on the socials but this was our first chance to talk to him. He was a bit under the weather, but was able to give us the "CliffsNot...
SoberNotMature - Episode 78 (Curious Musings From The Middle Of The Night))
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Aug. 19, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 78 (Curious Musings From The Middle Of The Night))

This week it's Mike and I and we are recording late! Listen and find out why, but it did make us a little punchy, but in a fun way. Mike had a great reading this week and then we jumped into Step 8 for a little bit. It turned into a good conversation and one that may be helpful to some people. A very good friend of ours passed away recently, but he died sober. He "graduated." We told some stories and recalled some fun times with him and expressed a lot of gratitude for who he was to us. He was a...
SoberNotMature - Episode 77 ("G" Revisited - Pain, Resentment and Other Nonsense Filler Words)
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Aug. 12, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 77 ("G" Revisited - Pain, Resentment and Other Nonsense Filler Words)

This week it's our good friend Gretchen (G). We had her on before (Episode 31) and she's back to talk about her knee surgery and how she dealt with the procedure, the pain, the meds and the overall recovery. And she did it all sober. Then we talked about the pains we all have. Getting old has its challenges. Mike did his reading and it had to do with acceptance. Coincidentally, G has been having some struggles with acceptance and we had a nice discussion about that. It was a fun conversation wit...
SoberNotMature - Episode 76 (Alysse B - Curates Us Soberly... But Not Maturely)
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Aug. 5, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 76 (Alysse B - Curates Us Soberly... But Not Maturely)

This week we have Alysse, founder of The Sober Curator. @thesobercurator You may have read some of our posts as far as how we became acquainted and if not, we do talk about it briefly. Alysse is truly one of us and she has 17 years sober. She has had her ups and downs, successes and failures and she does a great job of walking us through her story. We heard a lot of things that we have heard before, such as trying to control her drinking, meetings were not for her (in the beginning), feeling lik...
SoberNotMature - Episode 75 (King Roach - Grateful To Be In The Room)
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July 29, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 75 (King Roach - Grateful To Be In The Room)

This week we have Alex "King Roach" Montañez @ImKingRoach Alex approached us a few months ago to be on and after a few adjustments and date changes, we were able to have a great conversation with him. He gave us a brief background about what happened and why he got sober, and then we got right into the fun stuff... what he is up to now. He started his company www.dominatetheglobe.com in 2020, had some ups and downs and then got sober on 3/01/22. Drinking had become a daily thing for him and it w...
SoberNotMature - Episode 74 (Planting Flowers In The Turds)
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July 22, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 74 (Planting Flowers In The Turds)

Yep, it's Mike and Bill again. Fresh off a weekend of bikers, Jetts, Foos and a bad "hotel" experience. But, it was a great weekend. We started off with Mike's weekly reading and it was a good one. All about service and we got into a conversation about what we do for service. Is it enough? Will it ever be enough? Listen and find out. Then we recapped the weekend and we have some stories, but the bottom line is that we had a great time, listened to some great rock 'n' roll and we did it all sober...
SoberNotMature - Episode 73 (Fighting Relapse, Darkness and Foo)
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July 15, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 73 (Fighting Relapse, Darkness and Foo)

Just us two knuckleheads this week, both in Indiana and we are going to the 120th Harley Reunion in Milwaukee! Bikers, Joan Jett and the Foo Fighters! First of all, the reading from Mike and it was about not regretting the past, facing people that we hurt and we had a pretty nice conversation. That led into another reading that we came across this week about facing walls in our lives. Mike has his radio gig coming up again! We talked about that briefly, but stay tuned for all of the details. We ...
SoberNotMature - Episode 72 (Dr. Sarah Co-signs Our Bullshit and Takes Us Out of CrazyTown)
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July 8, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 72 (Dr. Sarah Co-signs Our Bullshit and Takes Us Out of CrazyTown)

This week we talked with Dr. Sarah Michaud (Author "Co - Crazy") Website ⁠www.DrSarahmichaud.com⁠ YouTube - Leaving CrazyTown "Co - Crazy begins with a chronicle of growing up in a family with alcoholism that eventually led to a harrowing journey and downward spiral into drug and alcohol addiction. Her inspiring recovery is deeply authentic, and Michaud’s vivid descriptions are both heartbreaking and illuminating." We talked about her book, about her YouTube channel and about her 40 years of sob...
SoberNotMature - Episode 71 (Precariously Practicing Our Perfection)
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July 1, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 71 (Precariously Practicing Our Perfection)

Well... we had some challenges with this episode, but we made it through. As always, you will hear the challenges! Mike had a great reading this week and it talked about building character through good habits. It also talked about values, morals and ethics, which are all things that we DID NOT have before we got sober. And Mike had a story from this week to go along with that whole concept. We received a nice message from a listener with a request and we also received an email from a guy that co...
SoberNotMature - Episode 70 (Setting Our Boundaries - Keeping Out The Bull)
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June 24, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 70 (Setting Our Boundaries - Keeping Out The Bull)

Well... we had a couple of technical issues, but it's our "rule" not to edit out the failures (haha), so you get to hear them. Mike started out with a reading and it talked about "acting as if," which we have talked about before. It also talked about hurting people and the shame that we all usually feel when we first get sober. It brought about a pretty good conversation between us. Then we talked about the wrap up of Bill's job last week, opening up on social media and we did a recap of our tri...
SoberNotMature - Episode 69 (Coach David G - Owning Our Behavior, Without A Mortgage)
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June 17, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 69 (Coach David G - Owning Our Behavior, Without A Mortgage)

This week it's Coach David! He's a business coach and has been a sober member of this thing we do, for over 14 years. Instagram - @coachdjgreerWebsite - coachdjgreer.com He started off with the fact that he's adopted (and that becomes part of his story later) but had a relatively normal childhood. A decent student, played sports and partied on the weekends. Same thing when he went on to college. Then came the work stress and more drinking. Trying to quit at times, unsuccessfully. Finally the mo...
SoberNotMature - Episode 68 (Became Willing To Remove Our Piss Drawers)
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June 10, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 68 (Became Willing To Remove Our Piss Drawers)

Founders Day Weekend! We started off with the reading for the week and it was about doing the next right thing, the "we" of the program and positive thinking. Then on to Step 6, which also played into the reading, and we had a nice discussion around that. And a technical difficulty. Throbbing and buzzing. Some employment announcements and we talked about treating people well. We wrapped up with solving problems and pissing in drawers. Yes, that's where the title came from. Enjoy the episode. Vis...
SoberNotMature - Episode 67 (Sober Friends' Matt - Floating Our Boats & Avoiding The Floaters)
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June 3, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 67 (Sober Friends' Matt - Floating Our Boats & Avoiding The Floaters)

This week, Matt From Sober Friends Podcast joined us. ( Instagram - @soberfriendspod ) Matt has a fairly normal back story, where his family drank, he never wanted to be like that and he actually had a plan on how NOT to be an alcoholic. But we know how that goes. That was maybe 15 minutes of the episode, and then we just shot the breeze for the rest of the time. We talked about the podcasts and why we do them, what recovery really means and what we do with our time. We talked about the path, di...
SoberNotMature - Episode 66 (Taking Our Time Machine For A Test Drive)
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May 27, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 66 (Taking Our Time Machine For A Test Drive)

Mike and I again this week! We started out with Mike's reading and it had to do with the "we" of the program and the fact that we can't do this alone. That led into a conversation about a funeral that Mike went to this week. It was a fairly deep conversation about why "we" need help and we can't do this by ourselves. Then some messages from a couple of our followers. One in particular that sent us a clip for Mike to listen to. (it's a fun one) What makes us special, I Love Lucy, hiding drinking,...
SoberNotMature - Episode 65 (Our Reptilian Brains - Or How Not To Act Like A Trouser Lizard)
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May 20, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 65 (Our Reptilian Brains - Or How Not To Act Like A Trouser Lizard)

Just Mike and I this week and at about the 51 minute mark, we had a technical difficulty... but we started up a new session and powered through! We started off with Mike's reading and it was about new ideas and how our brains tend to reject those ideas. Change. Fear. We don't like those things. It's the middle of the month, but we hadn't talked about the 5th Step yet, so we dove into that. Speaking of change and fear, it's a scary Step, but as you will hear, we came out on the other side a littl...
SoberNotMature - Episode 64 (Shay - Now With Positive Ripples)
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May 13, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 64 (Shay - Now With Positive Ripples)

This week it's all Shay! (Follow her on Instagram @shaysnotdrinking) Born and raised in Utah, she talked a little bit about her childhood and some of the challenges that she faced. She also shared that she didn't even touch alcohol until she was 19 and married. When alcohol entered her life, so did the problems. A failed marriage, the rehabs, hiding her drinking and winding up in a facility on a 72 hour hold. Then she found sobriety. Now 3 years sober, she is happily married, a mom of 2 girls, s...
SoberNotMature - Episode 63 (Angel A - Not A Stripper, But Wise and Weepy)
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May 6, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 63 (Angel A - Not A Stripper, But Wise and Weepy)

This week it's all Angel! One of our close friends from Cleveland, with over 10 years of sobriety, and we had a lot of fun with her. She talked about her childhood, about being spoiled and said words that many of us are familiar with... "It was all about me." The party kicked off at 18, and slowly changed over the years. She met her future husband (Tony from Episode 49) and she walked us through their progression from weekend partying, to losing it all. Today she has a very different life and yo...