Sober Not Mature

Episodes

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Aug. 19, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 78 (Curious Musings From The Middle Of The Night))

This week it's Mike and I and we are recording late! Listen and find out why, but it did make us a little punchy, but in a fun way. Mike had a great reading this week and then we jumped into Step 8 for a little bit. It turned into a good conversation and one that may be helpful to some people. A very good friend of ours passed away recently, but he died sober. He "graduated." We told some stories and recalled some fun times with him and expressed a lot of gratitude for who he was to us. He wa...
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Aug. 12, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 77 ("G" Revisited - Pain, Resentment and Other Nonsense Filler Words)

This week it's our good friend Gretchen (G). We had her on before (Episode 31) and she's back to talk about her knee surgery and how she dealt with the procedure, the pain, the meds and the overall recovery. And she did it all sober. Then we talked about the pains we all have. Getting old has its challenges. Mike did his reading and it had to do with acceptance. Coincidentally, G has been having some struggles with acceptance and we had a nice discussion about that. It was a fun conversation ...
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Aug. 5, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 76 (Alysse B - Curates Us Soberly... But Not Maturely)

This week we have Alysse, founder of The Sober Curator. @thesobercurator You may have read some of our posts as far as how we became acquainted and if not, we do talk about it briefly. Alysse is truly one of us and she has 17 years sober. She has had her ups and downs, successes and failures and she does a great job of walking us through her story. We heard a lot of things that we have heard before, such as trying to control her drinking, meetings were not for her (in the beginning), feeling ...
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July 29, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 75 (King Roach - Grateful To Be In The Room)

This week we have Alex "King Roach" Montañez @ImKingRoach Alex approached us a few months ago to be on and after a few adjustments and date changes, we were able to have a great conversation with him. He gave us a brief background about what happened and why he got sober, and then we got right into the fun stuff... what he is up to now. He started his company www.dominatetheglobe.com in 2020, had some ups and downs and then got sober on 3/01/22. Drinking had become a daily thing for him and it...
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July 22, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 74 (Planting Flowers In The Turds)

Yep, it's Mike and Bill again. Fresh off a weekend of bikers, Jetts, Foos and a bad "hotel" experience. But, it was a great weekend. We started off with Mike's weekly reading and it was a good one. All about service and we got into a conversation about what we do for service. Is it enough? Will it ever be enough? Listen and find out. Then we recapped the weekend and we have some stories, but the bottom line is that we had a great time, listened to some great rock 'n' roll and we did it all sob...
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July 15, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 73 (Fighting Relapse, Darkness and Foo)

Just us two knuckleheads this week, both in Indiana and we are going to the 120th Harley Reunion in Milwaukee! Bikers, Joan Jett and the Foo Fighters! First of all, the reading from Mike and it was about not regretting the past, facing people that we hurt and we had a pretty nice conversation. That led into another reading that we came across this week about facing walls in our lives. Mike has his radio gig coming up again! We talked about that briefly, but stay tuned for all of the details. ...
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July 8, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 72 (Dr. Sarah Co-signs Our Bullshit and Takes Us Out of CrazyTown)

This week we talked with Dr. Sarah Michaud (Author "Co - Crazy") Website ⁠www.DrSarahmichaud.com⁠ YouTube - Leaving CrazyTown "Co - Crazy begins with a chronicle of growing up in a family with alcoholism that eventually led to a harrowing journey and downward spiral into drug and alcohol addiction. Her inspiring recovery is deeply authentic, and Michaud’s vivid descriptions are both heartbreaking and illuminating." We talked about her book, about her YouTube channel and about her 40 years of s...
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July 1, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 71 (Precariously Practicing Our Perfection)

Well... we had some challenges with this episode, but we made it through. As always, you will hear the challenges! Mike had a great reading this week and it talked about building character through good habits. It also talked about values, morals and ethics, which are all things that we DID NOT have before we got sober. And Mike had a story from this week to go along with that whole concept. We received a nice message from a listener with a request and we also received an email from a guy that ...
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June 24, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 70 (Setting Our Boundaries - Keeping Out The Bull)

Well... we had a couple of technical issues, but it's our "rule" not to edit out the failures (haha), so you get to hear them. Mike started out with a reading and it talked about "acting as if," which we have talked about before. It also talked about hurting people and the shame that we all usually feel when we first get sober. It brought about a pretty good conversation between us. Then we talked about the wrap up of Bill's job last week, opening up on social media and we did a recap of our t...
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June 17, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 69 (Coach David G - Owning Our Behavior, Without A Mortgage)

This week it's Coach David! He's a business coach and has been a sober member of this thing we do, for over 14 years. Instagram - @coachdjgreer Website - coachdjgreer.com He started off with the fact that he's adopted (and that becomes part of his story later) but had a relatively normal childhood. A decent student, played sports and partied on the weekends. Same thing when he went on to college. Then came the work stress and more drinking. Trying to quit at times, unsuccessfully. Finally the...
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June 10, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 68 (Became Willing To Remove Our Piss Drawers)

Founders Day Weekend! We started off with the reading for the week and it was about doing the next right thing, the "we" of the program and positive thinking. Then on to Step 6, which also played into the reading, and we had a nice discussion around that. And a technical difficulty. Throbbing and buzzing. Some employment announcements and we talked about treating people well. We wrapped up with solving problems and pissing in drawers. Yes, that's where the title came from. Enjoy the episode....
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June 3, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 67 (Sober Friends' Matt - Floating Our Boats & Avoiding The Floaters)

This week, Matt From Sober Friends Podcast joined us. ( Instagram - @soberfriendspod ) Matt has a fairly normal back story, where his family drank, he never wanted to be like that and he actually had a plan on how NOT to be an alcoholic. But we know how that goes. That was maybe 15 minutes of the episode, and then we just shot the breeze for the rest of the time. We talked about the podcasts and why we do them, what recovery really means and what we do with our time. We talked about the path, ...
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May 27, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 66 (Taking Our Time Machine For A Test Drive)

Mike and I again this week! We started out with Mike's reading and it had to do with the "we" of the program and the fact that we can't do this alone. That led into a conversation about a funeral that Mike went to this week. It was a fairly deep conversation about why "we" need help and we can't do this by ourselves. Then some messages from a couple of our followers. One in particular that sent us a clip for Mike to listen to. (it's a fun one) What makes us special, I Love Lucy, hiding drinki...
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May 20, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 65 (Our Reptilian Brains - Or How Not To Act Like A Trouser Lizard)

Just Mike and I this week and at about the 51 minute mark, we had a technical difficulty... but we started up a new session and powered through! We started off with Mike's reading and it was about new ideas and how our brains tend to reject those ideas. Change. Fear. We don't like those things. It's the middle of the month, but we hadn't talked about the 5th Step yet, so we dove into that. Speaking of change and fear, it's a scary Step, but as you will hear, we came out on the other side a lit...
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May 13, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 64 (Shay - Now With Positive Ripples)

This week it's all Shay! (Follow her on Instagram @shaysnotdrinking) Born and raised in Utah, she talked a little bit about her childhood and some of the challenges that she faced. She also shared that she didn't even touch alcohol until she was 19 and married. When alcohol entered her life, so did the problems. A failed marriage, the rehabs, hiding her drinking and winding up in a facility on a 72 hour hold. Then she found sobriety. Now 3 years sober, she is happily married, a mom of 2 girls...
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May 6, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 63 (Angel A - Not A Stripper, But Wise and Weepy)

This week it's all Angel! One of our close friends from Cleveland, with over 10 years of sobriety, and we had a lot of fun with her. She talked about her childhood, about being spoiled and said words that many of us are familiar with... "It was all about me." The party kicked off at 18, and slowly changed over the years. She met her future husband (Tony from Episode 49) and she walked us through their progression from weekend partying, to losing it all. Today she has a very different life and...
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April 29, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 62 (Ashley H - Teaching Us How To Heel)

This week we have one of our good friends returning for a second run at this thing. Ashley from Healing With A Sober Girl Podcast. @healingwithasobergirlpodcast The focus was on grief and gratitude, but we also got into a few other topics and had some laughs. We talked about why we do our podcasts, what we do to stay active and "sane," how we find gratitude in the losses that we have had and we talked a little bit about our anniversaries. Mainly it was just 3 sober people, sitting around and...
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April 23, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 61 (Annie-Verse-Harry Spectacular!)

Our Anniversary Spectacular! Or... just the same old stuff, on a different day? Mike did his reading for the week and it talked about "acting as if," and "faking it, til you make it." We agree with both of those sayings, and we had a good conversation about it. Listener message! Yep, we got a message from one of our listeners and it's a fun one. We expressed a little bit of that good old fashioned gratitude for the past 13 years, talked about upcoming guests, "future wreckage," seeing booze e...
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April 15, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 60 (Melissa Z And Hercules - Listen And Do)

This week it's all Melissa! Well... and Hercules too. As we have mentioned, she is a friend of ours from Cleveland, she's been sober for over 10 years and she has a hell of a story. She took us through her normal childhood, talked about her normal friends and her normal life. And like many of us, things stayed normal; until they weren't. One of the biggest things that she was taught was, "listen and do." She still does that to this day, along with many other things that she was taught in the ...
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April 8, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 59 (Make Sure It Doesn't Get Kinked)

I think we set a new record with the "F" word. It was said 113 times in this episode. We started out with Mike's reading and it talked about not being the center of attention, the fact that we can't have everything, and doing the next right thing. Then an Action item from a reading this week about resentments, that turned into a decent conversation. On to anxiety, depression, getting early morning texts, someone messing with the word sober and we even got off on a tangent about our mom. And ...
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April 1, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 58 (Filling Our Holes and Yours)

We started off with Mike's reading and it was a good one again. It was about giving this thing away to others and not laying our anger on others. That led into a "mood" that Bill has been in and he shared that. Then we jumped into the 4th Step, since it's the beginning of the 4th month. We mention this on the episode, but even if you aren't a 12 Step person, take the time to listen. We feel that we put these things in real life terms and whether you are a 12 stepper or not, we think you'll get...
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March 25, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 57 (Embracing Our Shame)

Just Mike and I this week, since we had a guest that cancelled... But we did just fine on our own. Mike started off with a great reading that talked about responsibility, facing things head on and being confident rather than arrogant. We also talked about one of the actions from a different reading and we both had a wonderful revelation. Then we talked about the guest that cancelled and had some fun with that. Thanks Little Dickie. You helped us fill up a chunk of the episode and you weren't e...
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March 18, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 56 (Lepre-pros and cons - Taking Full Responsibility)

The St. Patrick's Day, weekend extravaganza episode! Not really an extravaganza, but we do talk about the day of green. We started out with Mike's reading and a discussion about one of the actions that we read about. That led into the charity event that is going on this weekend for The Keating Center and events of the past. Some stories were told about our shenanigans on St. Paddy's Day in the past, and we are both grateful that we are not doing that today. We received a complaint on a meme t...
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March 11, 2023

SoberNotMature - Episode 55 (Nicole O - Smashing Stigmas, Stereotypes and Saskatchewan)

This week it is all Nicole! Joining us from The Great White North and we were happy to have her on. She gave us an idea of what life was like growing up, then becoming a "wild child," obtaining a law degree and the struggles that brought her into recovery. Today she is sober, confident and most importantly, is giving back to the same community that she took from for many years. She has a hell of a story. You don't want to miss it. Visit us Podcast www.sobernotmature.com Store www.sobernotma...