Sober Not Mature

Episodes

SoberNotMature - Episode 209 (The Infinite Doom Scroll)
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Feb. 21, 2026

SoberNotMature - Episode 209 (The Infinite Doom Scroll)

This week we have...The end of Season 8 and yep, it's Mike and Bill.Mike started off with his reading and it was about the Why and the How and also having a sense of purpose. Life can get weird, but we have the tools and the foundation to deal with all of it. We had a good conversation.Then we chatted about getting pulled over, Mardi Gras and a drunken celebrity, How It Works, service work, making friends, remembering the madness, voting and The Infinite Doom Scroll.We also recap...
SoberNotMature - Episode 208 (It's A Major Award [Nomination])
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Feb. 14, 2026

SoberNotMature - Episode 208 (It's A Major Award [Nomination])

This week we have...Mike and Bill and we have an announcement! Read on...Mike started off with his reading and it was about lost time, but also about better late than never. Sometimes we take a while to do the things that we need to, but we get there. It also talked about gratitude. It was a good conversation.Then the announcement!We have been nominated for Best Podcast by the Sans Bar Academy Awards. It's humbling and a little unbelievable, but we talked through it.We will h...
SoberNotMature - Episode 207 (Dinner's Served)
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Feb. 7, 2026

SoberNotMature - Episode 207 (Dinner's Served)

This week we have...It's back to your pals, Mike and Bill.We had 3 weeks of great guests and a huge thank you to all of them! But now, it's back to basics.Mike started off with his reading and it was about relationships. We have them now that we are sober and they are not only nice to have, they are critical for us. We need to work at it, but the end result is worth it. It was a good conversation.We talked about a Florida man, the first Groundhog Day, a shout out from a podcast, ...
SoberNotMature - Episode 206 (Jermaine B. - The Art Of The Autopsy)
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Jan. 31, 2026

SoberNotMature - Episode 206 (Jermaine B. - The Art Of The Autopsy)

This week we have...Jermaine Burse! @jermainedante_artVisual Artist and Published Author (Autopsy of My Former Self)Jermaine is a critically acclaimed visual artist and published author whose rise from sleeping in his car to becoming a globally collected creator shapes the emotional force of his work.His art, held by elite athletes, celebrities, cultural leaders, and major brands, captures human evolution with raw honesty and refined vision.His new book expands that journey and crea...
SoberNotMature - Episode 205 (Ben F. - Shining A Light On The Shuffle)
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Jan. 24, 2026

SoberNotMature - Episode 205 (Ben F. - Shining A Light On The Shuffle)

This week we have...Benjamin Flaherty. @stoptheshuffleBen is an Austin-based filmmaker with a diverse collection of work - from documentary and art films with Lou Reed & Julian Schnabel to commercial spots for major brands.His short form PSA’s have been awarded at Cannes, D&AD, One Show and the Clios.His documentary feature debut, Shuffle, won the Grand Jury Prize for Best Feature at the 2025 SXSW Film and Television Festival.We had a great talk with Ben and you don't want to mi...
SoberNotMature - Episode 204 (Jim O. - Mucking Out Our Stalls)
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Jan. 17, 2026

SoberNotMature - Episode 204 (Jim O. - Mucking Out Our Stalls)

This week we have...Jim O’Connor.Jim is the founder and executive director of the Second Story Foundation, where he leads long-term recovery and workforce programs for men rebuilding their lives after substance use disorder.After experiencing homelessness and severe alcoholism, O’Connor entered recovery in 2016, an experience that reshaped his life and approach to healing. Drawing on both lived experience and professional training as a Certified Alcohol and Drug Counselor, he develop...
SoberNotMature - Episode 203 (Your Favorite Time Suck)
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Jan. 10, 2026

SoberNotMature - Episode 203 (Your Favorite Time Suck)

This week we have...Change of plans! Jermaine had a family situation and a technology glitch, so he will join us at the end of the month.You are stuck with Mike and Bill and we are determined to be Your Favorite Time Suck.Mike started out with his reading and it was one of our favorites from 24 Hours A Day and from January 6th. We have talked about it before, but we do explain the importance of the reading.We jumped into the show Mad Men, faith and determination, Bill Burr, waste...
SoberNotMature - Episode 202 (Glimmering Old Guys)
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Jan. 3, 2026

SoberNotMature - Episode 202 (Glimmering Old Guys)

This week we have...A New Year with Mike and Bill! Same old stuff, different year.Mike started out with his reading and it was about blame and hiding. We were always good at that before we got sober and it could be an easy trap to fall back into. It was a good conversation.We chatted about some medical stuff, New Year's Resolutions, Dry January, Mike's trip to see classic stuff from MAD Magazine, triggers and glimmers, detaching, expressing your feelings, geographicals, Jim Beam shut...
SoberNotMature - Episode 201 (Comparing Ourselves To Others)
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Dec. 27, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 201 (Comparing Ourselves To Others)

This week we have...Same old hosts, different week.Mike started out with his reading and it was about allowing others to give and not being afraid to ask for help. Those can be hard things for people like us and it was a good conversation.There was a horrible (but funny) holiday story, we heard a great quote about fear, talked about faith over fear, the show Brockmire, comparing ourselves to others, and people on the bubble.We also talked about Rob Reiner and his wife. It's a tra...
SoberNotMature - Episode 200 (Jeremy Pierson - We're His Ellen)
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Dec. 20, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 200 (Jeremy Pierson - We're His Ellen)

This week we have...Jeremy Pierson - @jeremylpierson - Spiritual Coach & Founder, Practical SpiritualityDedicated to helping people live more consciously, peacefully, and purposefully by applying spiritual principles in everyday life. "Practical Spirituality " explores topics like self-awareness, emotional healing, intuition, energy clearing, and personal transformation - all without the need to adopt someone else's beliefs.We truly enjoyed our conversation with Jeremy and we know th...
SoberNotMature - Episode 199 (Let's Party Like It's 199)
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Dec. 13, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 199 (Let's Party Like It's 199)

This week we have...Mike and Bill and no issues with the recording! We have had a great experience with Zencastr in general, but it was nice to be back to "normal."Let's Party Like It's 199! Or just more of the same.Mike started out with his reading and it was about the past. What was it like before we got sober? What did we gain with sobriety? The positives definitely outweigh the negatives and it was a good conversation.We chatted about the break even point, getting results, Di...
SoberNotMature - Episode 198 (What's The Alternative?)
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Dec. 13, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 198 (What's The Alternative?)

This week we have...Yep, it's a "normal" week with Mike and Bill. At least it's our version of "normal."Mike started out with his reading and it was about Practicing These Principals In All Our Affairs. Honesty and integrity. Other people being able to count on us and being able to count on ourselves. A great topic and a great conversation.We jumped into how people look at good years and bad years, Danny Trejo, thinking about drinking and slips, a surgery wrap up, Joe Rogan and Jerem...
SoberNotMature - Episode Delay
Dec. 6, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode Delay

"The park is closed, the moose out from should have told you."The great John Candy from the movie, Vacation.But seriously, we are having an issue with our recording studio and apparently they have an issue with their server.The episode for this week is recorded, but Zencastr needs to fix the problem and then we will be able to upload the episode.Stay tuned and thank you for your patience!Visit usPodcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...
SoberNotMature - Episode 197 (Why Don't You Just Smell it?)
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Nov. 29, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 197 (Why Don't You Just Smell it?)

This week we have...The Gratitude Episode! (With Mike and Bill)To be completely honest, we didn't fall over ourselves trying to make this just a Gratitude Episode. We try to live that way every day and hopefully it shows.Mike started out with his reading and it was about saying thank you. Those are two very simple words, but do we use them enough? Do we truly appreciate when someone is kind to us? It takes work to be kind and we should say thank you more often. It was a good topic....
SoberNotMature - Episode 196 (Where Do You Keep The Knives?)
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Nov. 22, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 196 (Where Do You Keep The Knives?)

This week we have...Mike and Bill, doing this thing that they do.Mike started out with something a little different. It was reading, but it was actually from a speech that Dr. Bob gave in Cleveland, in July of 1950.He talked about AA, the simplicity of the program and keeping it that way. He also talked about kindness, consideration and tolerance. It was a great thing to hear and discuss.We chatted about family events. Mike was with family last weekend for an early Thanksgiving a...
SoberNotMature - Episode 195 (This Is The Little One 'Lizabeth)
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Nov. 15, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 195 (This Is The Little One 'Lizabeth)

This week we have...Yep, it's us again, Mike and Bill. And buckle up, because we had a lot to talk about.Mike started out with his reading and it was about letting go and hanging on. Which is better and which is worse? Could they be interchangeable? It was a great topic and we had a good conversation.Then we had a brief conversation about John Candy. There is a documentary out now about his life and we are both fans. We don't know if he was an alcoholic or if maybe he just had addict...
SoberNotMature - Episode 194 (Megan Swan - Marinating In Chaos)
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Nov. 8, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 194 (Megan Swan - Marinating In Chaos)

This week we have...Megan Swan @meganswanwellnessShe's a fellow Sober Curator and has a few other things going on in her life.Megan Swan is the founder and CEO of Megan Swan Wellness and Altavita Medical Wellness Tourism, an integrative wellness coach, author, and podcast host who works with high-impact women globally.She champions wellness-alignment as the wave of the future—a non-negotiable strategy in both life and business.With fifteen years of experience in the wellness indu...
SoberNotMature - Episode 193 (Beth McDonough - Standby)
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Nov. 1, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 193 (Beth McDonough - Standby)

This week we have...Beth McDonough @bemcdnShe is a seasoned journalist and investigative reporter whose career spanned some of the nation’s largest television markets, from Houston and Philadelphia to Minneapolis and Missouri.She is also the author of the book Standby. (On sale now on Amazon)McDonough says it recounts her public downfall, taking readers behind the headlines of her jail time and arrests.Today, she lives in southern Utah surrounded by red rock mountains and five na...
SoberNotMature - Episode 192 (Burnt Grits)
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Oct. 25, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 192 (Burnt Grits)

This week we have...Both Mike and Bill again! Mike is back and we had plenty to catch up on.Mike started off with his reading and it was all about faith. Following those that came before us, taking suggestions that didn't make sense to us, acting "as if." It was a good reading and a good conversation.Then we chatted about opinions and trust, the purpose of our lives, judging people and resentments and is this thing that we do a miracle or not?For those that don't know, Ace Frehle...
SoberNotMature - Episode 191 (Tony H. - It's All About The Art Of Living)
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Oct. 18, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 191 (Tony H. - It's All About The Art Of Living)

This week we have...Tony H! @a_stoic_sobrietyTony is an IT executive by day and a writer by night, sharing his journey of sobriety through his blog A Stoic Sobriety. With 36 years of sobriety, he focuses on 12-Step recovery principles combined with Stoic Philosophy.Tony offers practical wisdom and encouragement to those seeking freedom from addiction.Don’t let the Stoicism fool you; he insists on making sobriety fun and can cry with the best of them.We had a great conversation a...
SoberNotMature - Episode 190 (Let's Go Spelunking)
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Oct. 11, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 190 (Let's Go Spelunking)

This week we have...Mike and Bill! Are you surprised? Mike was, so you are not alone.Mike started out with his reading and it was about change and staying fresh in this thing that we do. We act differently, work our program differently and we grow as people. At least we should. It was a good conversation.We also chatted about service work, did we hate what alcohol was doing to us, getting booze in hard times and a recap of some Charlie Sheen stuff.There is the documentary on Netf...
SoberNotMature - Episode 189 (Betty G.- Balancing Our Buddhas)
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Oct. 4, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 189 (Betty G.- Balancing Our Buddhas)

This week we have...Betty G - @buddha.bettyBetty knows what rock bottom looks like. Before 2019 her days were a blur of heroin, street hustle, and heartbreak—with the unthinkable pain of losing both parents to suicide.Then a single, life-shaking moment changed everything: a near-death-like experience during an overdose that sent her through a cosmic replay of her life, face-to-face with loved ones on the other side, and straight into a crash course on her soul’s pre-game plan.She...
SoberNotMature - Episode 188 (Death Doula Mara - The Grim Reaperess)
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Sept. 27, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 188 (Death Doula Mara - The Grim Reaperess)

This week we have...Our good friend Mara @marajsankin from Cleveland and from Episode 94. (Check out that episode to hear her full story)This time she is with us to talk about what she does for a living and about her new business venture.The episode is all about death, in the best way possible, and Mara explains how it is her mission to help people die with dignity.This is an episode that is unlike anything we have done before and a sincere thank to Mara for being our guide.E...
SoberNotMature - Episode 187 (This Episode Will Kill You)
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Sept. 20, 2025

SoberNotMature - Episode 187 (This Episode Will Kill You)

This week we have...Episode Murder. Yes! It's Episode 187 and This Episode Will Kill You. Or at least make you laugh. Or smile. Or something.Mike started out with his reading and it was about role models and copying what good people do. We needed that when we got sober and had the privilege of having many good role models.Then it was Jamie Lee Curtis, Lost In Space, things we should change, a baby shower, expecting the worst, not haters, AA membership and Charlie Sheen.And there ...