Episodes

Live from Cleveland!! (both of us) This is the final episode of Season 1 and we do a recap of how we got here with the podcast. How it started, where the name came from and what we like most about doing this. We talk about our sponsor in Cleveland, a spider, gratitude and when we took our first drink. What's more important, a birthday or a sober anniversary? And that's where the title of the podcast came from... Enjoy the episode. Visit us www.sobernotmature.com to leave comments about each...

This time, it's all Kathy. (And the crinkling sound that you hear WILL be explained and it goes away...) For those that don't know, she is our normie sister and a hell of a good sport for putting up with "these knuckleheads." She has some great questions and we get into some deep conversations. One of those has to do with how Bill was for the last 6 months that he was drinking. We also have some fun, but if this wasn't fun, we wouldn't do it. Oh yeah. And she refers to Mike as a marshmallow. ...

Our first ever Bonus Clip! Our sister helped me test things out a couple of weeks ago with the new software and I had some fun with it. You've all heard her name and heard our stories with her and now you get to hear her voice. This is Kathy. Enjoy the episode. Visit us www.sobernotmature.com to leave comments about each episode.

Chris, Chris and more Chris! We have our first guest on to run a little test with the new recording software, and it's Mike's girlfriend, Chris. To begin with, I don't know that we had planned to fill the entire episode with her, but man... we are glad that we did. She's a normie, but has been around "us people" for years and has now been around Mike and our sober group for 6 years. She was supposedly "unprepared," but she had a ton of questions and topics and we all had a great time and a gre...

We have new recording software! Riverside.fm - We like it and we think you will too. We start off by recapping our trip this past week and we give our reviews of the bands. We also tell a couple of drunk tales from our past (wedding stories) We touch on recovery sayings and how we use them in our daily lives. We also get into a discussion about anonymity and the "anonymous" part of AA. And I think we got off topic... once. Or twice. Maybe more. Enjoy the episode. Visit us www.sobernotmature....

We start off with Life on Life's terms and when is the best time to get sober? We talk about counseling. How alcohol is glamorized through advertising and why some people "make it" and why some don't. Sober dating and what we do if we are approached by someone who has questions about their drinking. And we wrap up with a little road trip that we have coming up next week. Enjoy the episode. Visit us www.sobernotmature.com to leave comments about each episode.

We begin with Covid and Bees and have a brief discussion about the acronym HOW. Acceptance is the key. So is willingness. We talk about the demands of a podcast, having to work Keating Center events and another popular recovery saying. Finding the similarities vs. the differences in early sobriety and we wrap up with whether we gloried drinking or not. Enjoy the episode. Visit us www.sobernotmature.com to leave comments about each episode.

Happy 4 month anniversary to the podcast!! And Mike has a radio gig coming up. We received a great comment from a follower and also a suggestion that we dig into (Trading addictions) What if we profited from this? We also look back at the groups we attended at The Keating Center, which one was most influential and how we started our daily routine. Finally we talk about what our biggest misconceptions were about getting sober and the things we never expected. Enjoy the episode. Visit us www.so...

Based on a suggestion, we actually talk about medicinal weed. The most monumental year or time in our sobriety and finding our identity with major changes or moves. When you're feeling out of sorts, lost or squirrely, what do you do? And how we felt the first time we did certain things sober. Handling death now vs. when we were drinking and forcing things vs. letting things just happen. We wrap up with a very brief conversation about current events. Enjoy the episode. Visit us www.sobernotmat...

We start off talking about a Cleveland AA icon and how we both benefited from his work. There's a move happening for one of us and we talk about the why behind it. We touch on willingness in early sobriety and what helped us stick around. Inpatient vs. outpatient programs and do we have any regrets or not? Lastly we talk about cleaning up our side of the street. Enjoy the episode. Visit us www.sobernotmature.com to leave comments about each episode.

We start out with charity talk. The Keating Center and how to support the podcast. A listener question, and we provide some additional information about "normies" vs. "real alcoholics." Speaking of normies... how they feel when one of us falls and a short story of me dealing with a "real alcoholic" as a teenager. Justifiable anger, the niceness of other sobriety podcasts and a quick story of Mike and I dividing our property. Enjoy the episode. Visit us www.sobernotmature.com to leave comments...

Founder's Day! This episode was recorded on June 10, 2022, which is the 87th Anniversary of the founding of Alcoholics Anonymous. As everyone knows, AA is our base and Founder's Day has been a big deal for us. Stories from the first time we went, until now. There is a brief discussion about cravings, especially when we were brand new. We talk about coins and we wrap up talking about one of the most important steps, outside of the first one. We also play a game... Fireworks or gunshots. Enjoy t...

We start off with a quick wrap of a work issue, then we transition into normie's vs. real alcoholics. More about sponsors, compatibility and "accountability partners." The idea of getting rid of the word alcoholic. Getting sober for other people, pink clouds, bed bugs (yes... we talk about bed bugs) and CBD products. Oh and some yammering. Enjoy the episode. Visit us www.sobernotmature.com to leave comments about each episode.

We begin on a positive note - Happy 3 Month Anniversary To The Podcast! Then we bitch about work... Steven Tyler relapsed. (insert verbal eye roll) We dive into a pretty cool conversation about how we both got our first sponsors, what they did for us and what happened next. As promised, we also discuss how AA varies in different parts of the country. There's Cleveland AA, and then there's everything else. (yeah, we are biased) I think we bitch some more too. And laugh. And ramble. Enjoy the ep...

We start off talking about what has always kept us sober; pizza, spite and making our beds. Also, preparing to be on our own after being "halfway." We discuss the things that could have kept us from staying sober and how critical they were. We reminisce about the last 30 days BEFORE we got sober. The dark days. Being powerless and not managing our own lives (Hence the title) Dreams and when we started drinking alcoholically. We also jump into admitting vs. accepting who we are. And we touch on...

12th Episode - 12 Years - 12 Steps We talk about our first jobs after getting sober. What it was like, what they led to and the challenges. Gratitude and accountability, make another appearance. How we handled our first summer and our first Holiday season. The plans that we made and what we still do today. Sobriety dates, pain meds and being responsible. This thing doesn't discriminate. Enjoy the episode. (Side Note - Bill LOVES Jennifer Aniston) Visit us www.sobernotmature.com to leave comm...

We begin with grand kids, diapers and not getting peed on. How music has played a part in our recovery and we dig into The Steps a little bit. Fear of missing out and the genuine fun that can be had sober. We also talk about being open (or not) on social media and a couple of our favorite quotes. We ramble, we laugh and we are childish. Duh. Enjoy the episode. Visit us www.sobernotmature.com to leave comments about each episode.

We dive into The Four Absolutes, explain what they are and more importantly, what they mean to us. We talk about when Bill moved back to Wisconsin, how he settled in and how the hand of AA reached out. We talk about boundaries, people pleasing and how we have learned and grown over the years. We touch on NA drinks, DUI's, drunk class and how to keep doing the next right thing. We're not done yet. Enjoy the episode. Visit us www.sobernotmature.com to leave comments about each episode.

In this episode, we are in Cleveland for our anniversaries and we do some stuff. A meeting, coins, friends and a trip to the birthplace of AA to visit Dr. Bob's house. We also talk about our time in the 3/4 house, and what happened after that. We talk about blackouts, how hard we worked to stay drunk and the magical number that we hit for our listeners. It confirms our lack of maturity. Then we ramble and digress. Enjoy the episode.

In this episode, we introduce a new friend ( @the.af.mom ) and a new page on our website. As promised, I tell my story about Sober Grid ( @sobergrid ), but it's a story with a point. And a lesson. We talk about our upcoming anniversaries and take a little trip down memory lane to our first anniversaries. We also touch on keeping quiet for the first year. No fronts. And our ideas and thoughts about trauma. Guess what? We also ramble. Imagine that. Enjoy the episode. Visit us www.sobernotmature...

This week we bitch a little bit about statistics (based on a message that I got this week). We talk about triggers, how we handle ourselves in social situations and dealing with life when it gets difficult. We also get into a conversation about when we first moved in together and having "the talk." And my escape attempt from detox. Enjoy the episode.

In this episode we talk about the death of a rock star and how we dealt with death in early recovery. We also received a request from a listener, asking us to talk about repairing relationships, starting healthy relationships and also coping skills. So we touch on all of those topics. We are both getting over mild colds, so you might hear some sniffling and coughing in the episode. Oh well. It's quality at its finest. *Side note - The Episode picture, is a real picture of Mike's shoes. Haha.

In this episode Mike is in Wisconsin for a few days, so we actually got to record an episode under the same roof. We talk about disappointments, the first drink, playing the tape through and gratitude. We also take a trip down memory lane, back to when we and the other guys got "scared straight." And we ramble. Right. But that's implied.

In this episode, we talk about when each of us got to the sober living facility, and you'll hear how different our experiences were. We also dive into that first 30 days that we were sober and some of the challenges that we dealt with in early sobriety. We talk about the people who influenced us, we talk a little bit about relapse and trying to come to grips with that power greater than ourselves. We announce a new family member and we also talk some nonsense. But you probably expected that.