Episodes
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June 20, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 174 (Fr. Bill W. - Two Way Prayer & Three Way FOs)
This week we have... Father Bill W. - Author of "The Power Of Two Way Prayer." Let's be honest, we had no idea how this episode might go. I mean really. It's a priest and it's us. But... The episode was wonderful. Listen and you will see what we mean. It was a great conversation and he was a great guest. Visit all of his stuff: Podcast - Father Bill W. Podcast Website - Two Way Prayer His Book - The Power Of Two Way Prayer (Available 7/1/25) Enjoy the episode. Visit us Po...
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June 14, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 173 (Enthusiasms - That Which Brings Us Joy)
Yep, it's us again. We are Mike and Bill. Nice to meet you. Mike started out with his reading and it was inspired by a lead that he heard earlier in the week. It was about honesty and that is the backbone of our program, so it was a really good conversation. Our friend Tim celebrated 40 years sober this week and we gave him a well deserved shout out. We did some reminiscing about a group that we attended at the Keating Center, chatted about Andrew McCarthy, dove into the 6th Step for a ...
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June 7, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 172 (Brothers In Defects)
It's Founder's Day Weekend! And it's the 90th Anniversary of the founding of Alcoholics Anonymous. Mike started out with his reading and it was all about the "we" of the program. We learn to set our egos aside, be of service to others and we become a group of people, with the same goal. We are Brothers In Defects. It was a great reading and a great conversation. We found out this week that Marc Maron will be ending his podcast this fall, after 16 years. He's one of us, someone we follow an...
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May 31, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 171 (Mildly Entertaining As Always)
This week, it's us. Mike and Bill, just keeping it simple. Mike started out with his reading and it was about what we do when no one is looking and the fact that "we are only as sick as our secrets." We can all act decent for an hour at a meeting, but what about the rest of the time? It was a good conversation. We shared some messages from a couple of listeners, and one of them was from a buddy of ours in Cleveland who is an avid listener, and we had no idea. We also chatted about our upco...
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May 24, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 170 (Sitting Down & Shutting The F Up)
This week Mike and Bill are back at the helm. As it was said in the episode, "We still don't know what we are doing, but we sound good." Mike started off with his reading and it was all about the "we" of the program. People are there for us and we are there for them. That's how this thing works. It was a great reading and a good conversation. Then we talked talked about Mike's trip to DC, bad pizza, a fun text, how far we've come, old school AA guys (sitting down and shutting the F up), wh...
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May 17, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 169 (Shirley We Jest)
This week, as promised and finally, we have Shirley! Our friend from "the socials" and self proclaimed Sober Not Mature Fan Girl. This was one of the most laid back and comfortable conversations that we have had in a long time. She told us about her background, what got her into sobriety and what she does now. It was straight forward and to the point, but we learned a lot about her along along the way. She is from Detroit (Mike liked that), she practices a lot of the same things that we...
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May 10, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 168 (That's A Good Point)
Woohoo! It's Mike and Bill again this week and we were fired up and ready to go. That may be an overstatement, but we enjoyed ourselves. Mike started off with his reading and it was about that little voice in our heads. Do we listen to it? Do we talk back to it? It was a little bit outside of what we normally talk about, but it was amusing. Mike is taking a trip this weekend and it's a family event, so we chatted about that. It happens to be to the nation's capital, so Mike is going to sho...
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May 3, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 167 (Cleaning Up After Ourselves)
Yep, it is just us this week. Shirley will be on with us in a couple of weeks, but we needed to reschedule. It was us, not her. and we are thankful that she was willing to be flexible. Mike started out with his reading and it was about learning. Learning from our past, learning how to be decent people, understanding others and just being a decent human being. It was a good conversation. We chatted about getting tased, meetings, fate, the Fourth Step, being accountable, character, the begin...
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April 26, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 166 (The Bad Boys Of Recovery - Warm Before Use)
This week, it's the Anniversary Spectacular Episode! It's probably not spectacular, but both of us did have sober anniversaries. Mike started off with his reading and it was about a higher power and how we need to act. Do we "deserve" things? Does the world owe us things? We know how we were and how we are now and it was a good talk. And yes, both of us celebrated 15 years sober in the past week. It's a great accomplishment, but we are not done yet. Then we talked about saying goodbye, ...
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April 18, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 165 (No Sleep 'Til Valpo)
Yep, it's your favorite podcast hosts, bringing you your favorite podcast. Well, maybe one of your favorites? Anyhow, Mike started out with his reading and it was about gratitude, being a "good guest," and someone that others actually want to be around. It was a good conversation. Join us next week for our Anniversary Episode, but we did talk about that just a little bit. Then it was the Keating Center event, a comment from a listener (and soon to be guest?), talking with AI, atheists a...
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April 12, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 164 (Don't Drive On The Tracks)
Guess who? Yep, it's Mike and Bill again, back at it. Mike started out with his reading and it was about being selfish in this thing we do and trying to do our best. Not for anyone else, but because it's the right thing to do. We had a pretty good talk about it. We got interactive with a thing, then chatted about Dennis Eckersley, falling down, rock 'n' roll life, anger, stubbornness, AI stuff, officers and drugs, DUI arrests and not buying us a coffee. And a great piece of advice. Don'...
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April 4, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 163 (Gargling Snake Sperm)
We are back at it and as Mike said in the episode, he is at about 80% of his normal. It will make sense when you listen. Mike started off with his reading and it was about friends and foes and also living by certain values and principals. Are we setting a good example, and are we trying to make the world a better place? It was a good conversation. We received a couple of messages and read those, then we talked about the 4th Step, Val Kilmer, trying to get things before we are ready, lookin...
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March 29, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 162 (Live From Mike's Deathbed)
This week we have Bill (sort of healthy) and Mike (not healthy at all) for a new week of fun and excitement. And possibly the shortest episode in a couple of years, but for good reason. Mike started out with his reading and it was about faith and obedience, living a new life and finally being givers and not always takers. We could both relate to all of it and it was a good conversation. Then we chatted about anniversaries, birthday parties, being a part of, alcohol "challenges," drinkin...
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March 22, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 161 (Alysse B. - Curious Curators Curating Curiously)
This week we have... Our good friend Alysse Bryson is back with us this week. @alysseinthecity @thesobercurator She joined us on Episode 76, where we had an opportunity to get to know her and hear her story (Make sure to listen to that episode also!) That was almost 2 years ago, and we have all come a long way. Mike and I have become Sober Curators, Alysse has jumped into the podcast arena and I think we had some things to talk about. Alysse is a friend, a colleague and a big part of th...
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March 15, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 160 (Tom Farley - We're All Gonna Need Bigger Pants)
This week we have... Yep, it's Tom Farley. He is the brother of Chris Farley, but he's also just one of us. He has a story, a life, a career and he was a lot of fun to talk to. We talked about everything and nothing and it's too much to list. You will just have to listen. Enjoy the episode. Visit Tom and the things that he does: @thetomfarley Chris Farley Foundation recovery.com The Chris Farley Show (Book) Visit us Podcast ...
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March 8, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 159 (BB's In A Boxcar)
This week we are back and ready to rock your socks off. Well, that may be a bit overstated, but it's Mike and Bill again. Mike started off with his reading and it was about that power greater than us, support and surrender. An important part of this process and we had a great conversation. We dove into Step 3 for a little bit, talked about pride, the still suffering, tolerance, free will, a good customer experience and being socially awkward. We wrapped up with a little rock talk. En...
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March 1, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 158 (Third Anniversary Spectacular - S.O.S.)
Yes, it's the Third Anniversary Spectacular and it is the same old "stuff," different day. Mike started off with his reading and it was about learning, keeping an open mind and freedom. Things that we cherish today, but had no clue about in our drinking days. It was a good conversation. We chatted about our the 3 years that we have been doing this podcast and some of the changes along the way. We also received a gift from a listener and we gave him a well deserved shout out. Then it was...
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Feb. 22, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 157 (Alex S. - Cheese And Poppies)
This week we have Alex Schotten. The author of “I learned how to love from Heroin” (Available on Amazon and Barnes & Noble) Alex joined us to talk about his journey, how he entered into recovery and how he ended up turning a passion of his into a book. From his childhood in Appleton, Wisconsin, to a life that landed him in prison, Alex has experienced a lot in his 30 years. There was not a shortage of things for us to talk about and we enjoyed our time. We know you will too. Enjoy th...
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Feb. 15, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 156 (Running With Scissors)
It's the season finale, Valentines Day Spectacular, with your pals, Mike and Bill. Mike started out with his reading and it was appropriately about love. We used to love things that were bad for us, but now we have learned to be loving, rather than look for love. It's a weird concept for many of us, but we had a good talk about it. We have a guest coming up next week and he has a book that we will talk about with him. It was also featured on The Sober Curator. Then it was how many f*cks, t...
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Feb. 8, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 155 (Did Your Goat See Its Shadow?)
Hey everyone! It's Mike and Bill again. Back at it with an all new, fun filled episode. Mike started out with his reading and it was about doing. Not sitting around, not wasting time, but taking the action and getting things done. It's how we need to live our lives today and it was a good conversation. We chatted about having conscious contact, what we didn't know then, Nigerian dwarf goats, present challenges, being told what we need to hear, our past unnatural lives, a DUI story and a li...
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Feb. 1, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 154 (A Steady Diet Of Cheese)
This week it's us! You know, Mike and Bill, back with you for another fun filled episode. Mike started with his reading and it was about luck and the idea of being lucky. We don't agree with the idea of luck, but instead feel that we create an outcome, based on the choices we make and the actions that we take. It was a good conversation. We apparently have some new listeners, and we chatted about that. Then on to Surgeon General warnings, a little more about the Van Halen brothers, area...
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Jan. 25, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 153 (The 2nd Door On The Left)
This week, Mike and Bill are at it again. Sobriety and nonsense, together in perfect harmony. Mike started out with his reading and it was about this life that we have today. When we got sober, we needed to drop whatever we thought we had planned and let this new way of life happen. It can be hard to navigate at times, but well worth it. We had a good talk. Then we continued with family, being lucky versus fortunate, acting and reacting in a sober way, Joe and Charlie, disliking certain pe...
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Jan. 18, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 152 (Mood & Swings In The Morning)
The title comes up in the episode and it will make sense when you hear it. Just us having some laughs along the way. Mike started off with his reading and it was about gifts. Recovery is a gift and the life that we get to enjoy when we do the work is a gift. It was a good conversation. Mr. Baseball, Bob Uecker, died this week and we talked about that. He was a good dude and had a positive effect on millions of people during his life. He will be missed. We chatted about hiking fails, how...
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Jan. 11, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 151 (This Sounds Like A Box Of Car Horns)
This week we have a whole lot of nonsense, with some sobriety sprinkled in. Yep, it's Mike and Bill this week. Mike started out with his reading and it was about believing. We are not told "what" to believe, but "how" to believe and that is a wonderful thing. We had a good talk about it. Then it was stories from Albuquerque, we talked about relapse, what motivates us, humility, shame, Dr. Seuss and Schoolhouse Rock, the We of the program, DUI statistics and Alex Van Halen. Oh yeah, and ...