Episodes
193
Nov. 1, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 193 (Beth McDonough - Standby)
This week we have... Beth McDonough @bemcdn She is a seasoned journalist and investigative reporter whose career spanned some of the nation’s largest television markets, from Houston and Philadelphia to Minneapolis and Missouri. She is also the author of the book Standby. (On sale now on Amazon) McDonough says it recounts her public downfall, taking readers behind the headlines of her jail time and arrests.Today, she lives in southern Utah surrounded by red rock mountains and five na...
192
Oct. 25, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 192 (Burnt Grits)
This week we have... Both Mike and Bill again! Mike is back and we had plenty to catch up on. Mike started off with his reading and it was all about faith. Following those that came before us, taking suggestions that didn't make sense to us, acting "as if." It was a good reading and a good conversation. Then we chatted about opinions and trust, the purpose of our lives, judging people and resentments and is this thing that we do a miracle or not? For those that don't know, Ace Frehle...
191
Oct. 18, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 191 (Tony H. - It's All About The Art Of Living)
This week we have... Tony H! @a_stoic_sobriety Tony is an IT executive by day and a writer by night, sharing his journey of sobriety through his blog A Stoic Sobriety. With 36 years of sobriety, he focuses on 12-Step recovery principles combined with Stoic Philosophy. Tony offers practical wisdom and encouragement to those seeking freedom from addiction. Don’t let the Stoicism fool you; he insists on making sobriety fun and can cry with the best of them. We had a great conversation a...
190
Oct. 11, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 190 (Let's Go Spelunking)
This week we have... Mike and Bill! Are you surprised? Mike was, so you are not alone. Mike started out with his reading and it was about change and staying fresh in this thing that we do. We act differently, work our program differently and we grow as people. At least we should. It was a good conversation. We also chatted about service work, did we hate what alcohol was doing to us, getting booze in hard times and a recap of some Charlie Sheen stuff. There is the documentary on Netf...
189
Oct. 4, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 189 (Betty G.- Balancing Our Buddhas)
This week we have... Betty G - @buddha.betty Betty knows what rock bottom looks like. Before 2019 her days were a blur of heroin, street hustle, and heartbreak—with the unthinkable pain of losing both parents to suicide. Then a single, life-shaking moment changed everything: a near-death-like experience during an overdose that sent her through a cosmic replay of her life, face-to-face with loved ones on the other side, and straight into a crash course on her soul’s pre-game plan. She...
188
Sept. 27, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 188 (Death Doula Mara - The Grim Reaperess)
This week we have... Our good friend Mara @marajsankin from Cleveland and from Episode 94. (Check out that episode to hear her full story) This time she is with us to talk about what she does for a living and about her new business venture. The episode is all about death, in the best way possible, and Mara explains how it is her mission to help people die with dignity. This is an episode that is unlike anything we have done before and a sincere thank to Mara for being our guide. E...
187
Sept. 20, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 187 (This Episode Will Kill You)
This week we have... Episode Murder. Yes! It's Episode 187 and This Episode Will Kill You. Or at least make you laugh. Or smile. Or something. Mike started out with his reading and it was about role models and copying what good people do. We needed that when we got sober and had the privilege of having many good role models. Then it was Jamie Lee Curtis, Lost In Space, things we should change, a baby shower, expecting the worst, not haters, AA membership and Charlie Sheen. And there ...
Sept. 15, 2025
SoberNotMature - Bonus Clip (A Reading With Mike)
Yes! It's a Bonus Clip! This is a clip from Episode 186 and it isolates the readings (yes, he did 2 this week) that Mike did on the episode. Mike did his homework and picked out a couple of readings that fit the "mood" of the week, but more importantly, fit with what we believe and how we feel. If you listen closely, you will hear what he is trying to say. Enjoy the clip. Visit us Podcast www.sob...
186
Sept. 13, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 186 (Don't Be A Dick)
This week we have... Mike and Bill, with a lot to talk about. It was a weird week, but it gets sliced up and laid out in the only way that we know how. Mike started out and actually did a couple of readings this week. They were short, but they had a point to them. The main lesson is what we try to live by; Try to make your corner of the world a little better today and there are solutions. Danger Moose and The Cheese are retired. For now. We had some announcements about a friend, a...
185
Sept. 6, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 185 (Danger Moose & The Cheese In The Morning)
This week we have... A change in plans! Yes, we had our good friend Kate scheduled, but there was a technology issue, so you are stuck with Mike and Bill. We will have Kate on a some point though. We promise. Mike started off with his reading and it was about Fear, Faith and Courage. Things scared us in early recovery, and we still get scared, but we have the tools to deal with all of it. And do it all sober. It was a good conversation. Next, we introduced 2 new characters; Danger Mo...
184
Aug. 30, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 184 (Lunch At The Caucasian Container)
This week we have... Mike and Bill on Hump Day! Yes, we have plans this weekend, so we recorded early. Not that it matters, but we are telling you either way. Mike kicked things off with his reading and it was about life on life's terms. Things happen (good, bad and indifferent), but how we handle those things is what matters. Do we want to be part of the problem or part of the solution? It was a good talk. We chatted about the Cracker Barrel (who hasn't, right?) and yes, that was the i...
183
Aug. 23, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 183 (Coming Out Of Those GD Uptempo Records)
This week we have... First of all, Mike is back! And secondly, it's the Season 7 Finale! Do you care? Just a little? Well, we started our a little punchy, but of course in a fun way. And we had a lot to talk about. Mike was back with his reading and it was a really good one. It was about relationships, both in and out of recovery and it hit home with us. It was a great conversation. Then we did a wrap up of our family trip, talked about Marc Maron, memes, a best man, dial-up inter...
182
Aug. 16, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 182 (Ian Fee - A Wild Ride)
This week we have... Ian Fee ( #ian.fee ) is a successful author, entrepreneur, and the creator of Make It Great (MIG). Proudly sober since 2017, he has dedicated himself to personal growth, family, and living a life of purpose and clarity. His journey from addiction to empowerment has become his mission: to help others trapped in the same cycle of self-destruction break free and embark on their own transformative path to health, passion, and a renewed mindset. Through his book, Wild...
181
Aug. 9, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 181 (Bells Will Be Ringing)
This week we have... Mike and Bill and Mike had an announcement! Yes, you need to listen to hear it. And we had a bit of a technical glitch at about 4 or 5 minutes into into the episode. Just hang in with us, because we worked through it and no. We didn't edit anything. Mike started out with his reading and it was about the pace of life. Before we got sober it was all chaos, intensity and drama. But now, for the most part, we have peace in our lives and when we don't, we know how to get ba...
Aug. 2, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 180 (Stay Cool & Have A Great Summer)
This week we have... The hosts of this fine podcast are back for another week of whatever we feel like talking about. Sober stuff and all the rest. Mike started out with his reading and it was about the Higher Power stuff. Yes, we all need one, but it can be a bit challenging at times, especially in the beginning. We had a good conversation and it was a great reading. We had a nice comment from a follower and a new listener, plus he sent a cool reel where he tattooed an orange with our ...
July 29, 2025
SoberNotMature - Bonus Clip (He Was F**king Ozzy)
Yes! It's a Bonus Clip! Everyone is talking about Ozzy, and we are no different. Or are we? This is a clip from Episode 179 and we did this clip to give everyone a bite sized portion of the episode, but yes, you should listen to the whole thing. We had a conversation about Ozzy and his career. Mike is our resident music expert and he has a possibly different view of Ozzy in general, but it's worth the listen. Enjoy the clip. Visit us Podcast ...
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July 26, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 179 (Grabbing Snakes By The Tail)
This week we have... More fun with Mike and Bill. Yep, it's your favorite wacky duo, back at it. Mike started out with his reading and it was about courage and change. Becoming different people in recovery and finally accepting life, truth and consequences. It was a great topic and a good conversation. Our friend Heidi (Episode 87) celebrated 20 years sober this week. It may not always be strawberries and orgasms, but she has done this thing for 2 decades. Congrats to her! Mike has h...
178
July 19, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 178 (Fruit And Feelings)
This week we have... Mike and Bill and we are proud to report that neither one of us attended a Cold Play concert this week. For any reason. Mike started out with his reading and it was all about trusting in someone or something other than ourselves. The Higher Power thing and others that have showed us the way. It was a good reading and a good conversation, because that is the backbone of what we need to do every day. This was a mid-summer cleanup episode, so we talked about a variety ...
177
July 12, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 177 (What Can We Do For Brown)
This week we have... Mike and Bill, back to normal. And we use the word "normal," very loosely. Mike started off with his reading and it was about keeping it simple. It's a common phrase in the recovery community and although it should be "simple," it can be challenging. We had a good conversation. We talked about an AA anniversary, Mary Lou Retton, the history behind John Barleycorn, acting like a sober person, negative sentences, Cologuard (What Can We Do For Brown), using our talents...
176
July 4, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 176 (Podevangelist Guilt & Other Criticisms)
This week we have... Mike and Bill's 4th of July, Freedom Episode. Mike started off with his reading and yes, it was about freedom. During our active addiction, we had no freedom at all. We were ruled by alcohol and drugs and life was a chore. Now we can do what we want, when we want (within reason) and life is far better. Enjoy the freedom. We ranted a bit about podcasters begging for money and using guilt along the way. We don't like that. Then it was on to social social media, ...
175
June 27, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 175 (Serene Curmudgeons)
Change of plans! This week it's Mike and Bill, your Serene Curmudgeons. We had a connection issue with Kate and we will reschedule her in the next few weeks, so you are stuck with us this week. Mike did his reading and it was about issues and problems and how we look at them these days. Are they really a big deal or do we make them a big deal? We need help with some things and other things just take time and patience. It was a good conversation. We chatted about the Dr., taking the hard...
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June 20, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 174 (Fr. Bill W. - Two Way Prayer & Three Way FOs)
This week we have... Father Bill W. - Author of "The Power Of Two Way Prayer." Let's be honest, we had no idea how this episode might go. I mean really. It's a priest and it's us. But... The episode was wonderful. Listen and you will see what we mean. It was a great conversation and he was a great guest. Visit all of his stuff: Podcast - Father Bill W. Podcast Website - Two Way Prayer His Book - The Power Of Two Way Prayer (Available 7/1/25) Enjoy the episode. Visit us Po...
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June 14, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 173 (Enthusiasms - That Which Brings Us Joy)
Yep, it's us again. We are Mike and Bill. Nice to meet you. Mike started out with his reading and it was inspired by a lead that he heard earlier in the week. It was about honesty and that is the backbone of our program, so it was a really good conversation. Our friend Tim celebrated 40 years sober this week and we gave him a well deserved shout out. We did some reminiscing about a group that we attended at the Keating Center, chatted about Andrew McCarthy, dove into the 6th Step for a ...
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June 7, 2025
SoberNotMature - Episode 172 (Brothers In Defects)
It's Founder's Day Weekend! And it's the 90th Anniversary of the founding of Alcoholics Anonymous. Mike started out with his reading and it was all about the "we" of the program. We learn to set our egos aside, be of service to others and we become a group of people, with the same goal. We are Brothers In Defects. It was a great reading and a great conversation. We found out this week that Marc Maron will be ending his podcast this fall, after 16 years. He's one of us, someone we follow an...